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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2007, 09:06:22 am »
Weren't there two Reichs before the third? I'm guessing that one makes you sick.

I think the problem is not related to the "Reiches" but to the ideology behind this word. And if you don't want to seem a Nazi you don't sing about the Reich.

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2007, 12:26:46 pm »
"Attero Dominatus" is a concept album about the WWII, so it's pretty clear which Reich they are referring to.
As I've said, I didn't know the context. Much obliged for the illumination.

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And their mass slaughter isn't the happy and merry fantasy slaughter in a world of elves and wizards and oh-so-brave humans but a very real one.
They also sing about the slaughter the Crusades brought. That was extremely real and, IMO, idealogically far worse than anything some guy with one ball could cook up. Nazism isn't even a century old - hostile Christianity is two millennia old and still kickin'. (I'm not saying all Christianity is hostile towards everybody else)

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These aren't lyrcis I could sing (or growl or scream) along from the bottom of my heart, and this spoils the whole band for me, or at least the whole album. This may seem stupid to many metal heads, but this is how I am.
No, not at all - I understand. I'm just a person who detests political correctness and sees it as the root of all evil... and who doesn't really have a problem with stuff like that in fiction. It's when they become a reality that we have a problem.

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I think the problem is not related to the "Reiches" but to the ideology behind this word. And if you don't want to seem a Nazi you don't sing about the Reich.
PC.... just don't like it.

Fact vs fiction. Reality vs reality.


To each his own, I guess. Just don't think I condone racism if I write a story about some white guys hanging a black guy. That's fiction. I can write some weird shit and still not mean it.
Can't stop the signal.

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2007, 12:38:25 pm »
Heya Hawk,

that doesn't count  as political correctness because I honestly dislike that stuff.

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Re: Sabaton
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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2007, 01:21:20 pm »
Heya Hawk,

that doesn't count  as political correctness because I honestly dislike that stuff.
Okay. Noted. It's usually PC when people talk about it - and it's sometimes hard to distinguish their own view from that of society.

No harm done, I hope.


For Lucy, straight from Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary:
political correctness, noun (1990)
- conformity to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities should be eliminated


Basically, if something could offend someone, it should be avoided. The fact that something always offends somebody is routinely ignored. PC is one of the biggest idiocies of modern society and the primordial stain on free speech.

If you dislike it, alright. If you're offended by it, turn around or hit me - don't use your feelings as the basis of my actions. My girlfriend can get away with that... you can't.


(you being a general you, 'fcourse)
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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2007, 02:12:12 pm »
Haha, no, Night, I’m not that kind! I have my own reasons to – let me quote Markus – ”dislike that stuff”. I would feel ashamed if I followed any conformity of beliefs without thinking. ;) About avoiding offensive speech: it's not a characteristic of mine either.

By the way I understand your point of view about fiction and reality – you are a writer – but don’t forget the influence that fiction can have on reality – for example books on people. (I could mention a lot of books here.)

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2007, 10:38:23 am »
I'm a happy girl. I have a photopass for Sabaton concert in Warsaw. :P

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2007, 12:06:52 pm »
Congrats, girl! Two years from now you'll be the top promoter for metal concerts in Poland!  :biggrin:

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2007, 06:10:14 pm »
Congrats Agnes! Say hello to the band from the Therion community. :D
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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2007, 03:20:26 pm »
I will :) but please remind me about it a day before :)

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2007, 02:03:07 pm »
questions to Sabaton prepaired. I will do an interview with them before the show with Maenthis propably in their bus :D

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2007, 06:24:35 pm »
Congrats again, Agnes!  :wOOt:

Umm... will we get to see the interview...?

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2007, 10:43:22 pm »
of course! if it sounds ok etc..I will upload it to you!

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2007, 11:41:11 am »
Marius Halleland from Thunderbolt wants to answer a couple of questions :) OMG! :D now I have a work..about what to ask :P

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2007, 12:36:10 pm »
Not the worst task, I assume. :) Congrats, Agnes! I hope you'll find some good questions.

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2007, 12:39:40 am »
Maenthis helped me and now we have some questions to Sabaton and Thunderbolt too..they travel together in the bus so there won't be any problem to find Pär or Marius :P hehehe of course I'm waiting impatiently to meet them!
ps.. what about my tragic English skill? have to learn each word from my "the new practical english-polish and polish -english dictionary" ;)

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2007, 11:42:11 am »
You know where to practice, Agnes! :)
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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2007, 02:35:39 pm »
with you all ;) what about chat? please...;) come to IRC!

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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2007, 05:38:34 pm »
OK friends! if you want to say sth to the band, write it to my e-mail address in a document not just in a message! I will print it. :) it's 18.38 here. I wait to 22.00!

EDIT ok...it may be posted here...or in the message :P
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Re: Sabaton
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2007, 05:54:43 pm »
some  photos:

Marius, guitarman of Thunderbolt


Mullback


Myhr


so clooose ;) Pär


3 guys from Thunderbolt


Sabaton Live






case




plaits made by me ;) beloved Marius :)