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Title: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: The One on February 27, 2013, 04:00:51 am

I was actually wondering about "the letter of Cefer" being Deggial's mark.
What exactly are the "letters of Cefer"? I could think of a couple of plausible ideas and they all involve "Cefer" being a mis-pronunciation. In Arabic, there are a pair of words that I can think of that correspond to a somewhat similar transliteration into Latin letters; one is "Sifr", the Arabic word for the number zero, which is the root for our word cipher. Another, more plausible, is the word "Kafir", which literally means "unbeliever" or "heretic".

So, what do you guys think?

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Ignacio on March 04, 2013, 08:39:58 pm

It can also be related to "Sefer" like the Sefer Yetzirah. More investigation needed  :ninja:

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: The One on March 05, 2013, 02:41:05 am

Quote from: Ignacio on March 04, 2013, 08:39:58 pm

It can also be related to "Sefer" like the Sefer Yetzirah. More investigation needed  :ninja:

"Sefer" is the Hebrew term for book. So essentially, you're claiming Hebrew literacy (existing much earlier than Islam) is the Islamic anti-Christ :P

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Ignacio on March 06, 2013, 04:37:00 pm

Not claiming anything. Just thought about the possibility... You are right, been reading about it and there are no connections

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Persephone on March 06, 2013, 06:23:57 pm

I missed this topic somehow  :blink: I promise to pay more attention to it ASAP.

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Lucy on March 06, 2013, 07:42:56 pm

What else is in your mind nowadays? :lol:

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Markus on March 06, 2013, 08:18:18 pm

Hey folks,

I don't remember the source, but I do remember that I found an article online which said that al-Dajjal (that's how they called the figure) bore the word "kaffir", i.e. "infidel" on his forehead so that everybody could read it, even the illiterate. They interpreted this detail as a metaphor that everybody who meets al-Dajjal is capable of recognising him for what he is - so if you follow his teachings, it's your fault only.

Cheers!

Markus

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Lucy on March 06, 2013, 08:24:34 pm

This sounds so similar to the story of Cain in the Bible. Would it be mere coincidence? :)

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: The One on March 06, 2013, 10:19:37 pm

So CFR is Kafir. Alright, case solved.

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Persephone on March 07, 2013, 09:08:04 am

Lucy!  -_-  :lol3:

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Markus on March 14, 2013, 12:03:00 am

Well, Lucy is right! Both have a mark from God that everybody can recognise. But I don't see any deeper parallels. Do you, folks?

Cheers!

Markus

Title: Re: On Deggial and CFR
Post by: Persephone on March 14, 2013, 02:06:10 pm

If I got it right - the mystery is solved - somewhere inside the TS - which is currently unavailable. I tried to do a little research but I've got basically nothing on it :)