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Main Forum => About Therion => Topic started by: Luth on September 04, 2012, 04:38:43 pm
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OK, it's the right time... what are you waiting for?? GO HERE (http://www.megatherion.com/store/item.php?itemid=95) and buy the "Les Fleurs du Mal" now!!!!! :ninja:
What? A new album? When has it been recorded? Where has been it announced? That was my questioning when I saw, this Sunday, in Facebook, that some of my fav pages urged me to buy the newest Therion disc (Vickström's, Christofer's... :lol3: ). First thing I thought: BUY!!!!! Second thing I thought: WHAT THE HELL!! I didn't know anything about it! I know I'm not checking a lot Megatherion and TS, but...how could I miss that????
Ok, that was Sunday late. Monday early... no time to check due to some minor details (my first day at work after the month of vacations :ninja:). But I had a moment to browse quickly for some information, and I entered a Spanish site where it said... WHAATT????! What's THAAAT!??! The site stated that this album would be the LAST THERION ALBUM, that gig, THE LAST THERION REGULAR GIG!!! I was tearing my robes, pulling out my hair, scratching my face, when I decided to check a little further the best reliable information on the net: TS. And light it was. :Pheeeeewwww:
That's not a secret, I guess, so I imagine there's no problem telling you that. Somebody asked Chris about that very same information on the net, and his answer is: that information looks like a poor translation of the official note about the album. They say this album will be the last one for some time, and this gig, the last gig together for some other time. That doesn't mean that Therion disappears (as looked like in that Spanish site!), but my heart, and the heart of some other fans, was racing fast in front of that possibility. All a misunderstandmend because a bad translation. And it seems other sites commited the same error...
Another important thing about the album: it's not made by Nuclear Blast. For whatever the reason, Chris prefered to release it by his own, and that means that there won't be the regular promotion, and it won't be bought in the usual shops: only in the concert or through Therion Store. I suppose it explains that nobody had known about it earlier... Btw... I've just read that's right during the gig: after the gig you will be able to buy the album in the usual store, only not by NB (and never ever before the gig!).
And, to end with the topic, another great thing (the only one info those sites didn't take wrong): Christofer will expend a lot of time (hours) in every city before each concert talking with all the fans, signing and whatever required. A good chance to shake hands with him if you have not :biggrin:
AAAH! And the last thing: the release is on September 28th. ENJOY!
(http://news.teletimesinternational.com/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/8035a_therion.jpg)
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I am really curious what it's going to sound like!
Thank You very much for the info update, Luthy :)
Did Christofer tell why is the band taking a break? I am just curious :) I guess family life for all!
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The only reason he gives is that they'll focus on different projects for some time. I suppose that children can count as a project :ninja:
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Luth, the shipping is set on 15 OCTOBER now.. I guess you will have to buy another copy on the concert..
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What!? I wanted to have it before the concert... it won't be possible now :bawl:
(no, I'm a great fan, but I won't buy a second copy of the same album :innocent: ).
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you can buy jewel case edition :P
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Guys, official statement is now online! http://megatherion.com/en/
Today I have some very important announcements to make.
I normally don't reveal the future road map of Therion. Mostly because there usually isn't any, we just do things. This time, however, there are long-term plans.
This is the short version:
• We are working on a metal rock opera. It will take a couple of years to realize. Because of that there won't be a regular Therion album for quite a few years. 5 years? 10? Who knows…
• I am, (with the help of the Band), making an art project to celebrate the 25-year anniversary of the Band. Releasing a CD is a part of the project and it will initially only be available for purchase from the Band (at live concerts and via the Therion Store) in the form of a special edition. Distribution and licensing will follow of the regular editions.
• We won't be doing any regular touring for many years.
• There will be a meet and greet with me (and any other members that want to come along) at all European shows. When possible, I will be hanging at the merchandise booth for several hours every day.
For you who want more details, here's the longer version:
Ten years ago or something I started to work on an opera, but I never managed to finish it. I wrote most of the highlights (the hit parts), but I never managed to write the bridges between them, the "boring" parts needed to glue it all together and just serve as a background for the singers to sing and act the play. Some years ago it suddenly struck my mind; "why not just do what you do best? Re-arrange the opera stuff you've written and do it as opera metal instead." I already borrowed parts from the opera for Blood of Kingu earlier, so why not go all the way and make the worlds first REAL rock opera. What is otherwise referred to with that expression is rather some sort of rock musical, let's do a rock/metal opera with only opera singing, with a synopsis, and perform it like that (with pre-recorded orchestra if needed for financial reasons).
However, completing this rather gigantic project that involved writing music, synopsis/lyrics and designing scenery, clothing etc., will be taking quite some time. Years probably. I don't want to work under pressure, things should grow naturally.
Meanwhile, to entertain the fans and to do something I wanted to do for several years, there will be an art project in the spirit of celebrating our 25-year anniversary. Fact is this art project was already started in secret some time ago. It will be introduced right before the tour or on the day of the first show.
The art project is mainly focused around music, but it also contains visual art and certain acts of art. As for the music, it will be released on a CD that will initially only be sold directly from the Band. It will be available at the concerts and put into retail later. For those of you not being able to attend the shows, the Therion Store will offer it.
Flowers of evil tour
The concept of this tour is for it to be a bit of everything:
- Presenting the new project with a few tracks.
- Doing several massive songs like Land of Canaan, Via Nocturna etc. Many of these songs don't make sense without a keyboard player, so as this time we have one with us, it's a great opportunity to have a special focus on those type of tracks.
- Playing some never before played old songs. A new Therion concert should never be predictable.
- Doing a bunch of Therion all time classics of course!
This will be the last regular tour we do in a while, as we will be working on the rock (metal) opera and we will only do performances related to the art project (if there's interest for it), the rock (metal) opera when it is ready, and maybe some acoustic shows, we have been talking about that for a while. We'll of course play some festivals from time to time where we do regular (but much shorter) sets, but as there won't be any new regular album, there won't be any regular tours. Not until we have finished the rock (metal) opera, performed it live as much as we can, taken a break and then put together a regular album again. That will take a couple of years for sure. So we are closing an era and opening a new period that will be quite different.
Also, to celebrate the 25-year anniversary I would really like to meet properly with you guys who made it possible to get this far. I am normally quite shy and have tons of stuff do to on the laptop and rather hide in the tour bus or backstage most of the time (except in Latin America where we always have a tight schedule). Not this time around. I will be trying to hang at the merch booth as much as possible. So mostly there will be no organized 1-hour lined up meet and greet/signing session. I’d rather hang there for several hours every day, so that everyone who wants to can get a personally dedicated CD, a photo and a chat without any stress. Ever wanted to ask something, complain about something, give congratulations for something or just drink a beer with someone who made music that meant something to you? There will be time for all that on this tour.
Les Fleurs du Mal CD
The CD has 15 tracks, but the edition sold at the concerts will have a bonus track and you will get a small poster with it. My aim is to sign and personally dedicate every single one of them at the shows.
The CD itself is fully financed by me. Nuclear Blast thought it was a bit too spectacular and we have totally different visions about how we should work on such a project. I've had a fantastic relationship with that wonderful label over the years. I've had total artistic freedom and much patience from them in a way that most other artists at our level only could dream of at many labels. So rather than having disagreements and make compromises, I suggested I release it by myself instead and they generously gave me their blessings for it. So our relation has never been better than now.
Financing a full Therion audio production mixing at ToyTown with the fantastic Stefan Glaumann, paying for orchestra and the Band members and many, many other things isn't cheap. To be more precise, it cost 75.000 euro. On top of that I also carried costs for video clips, photo session and the costs for creating the art and stuff for the CD. I don't have that kind of cash lying around in a drawer at home, so I had to go to the Bank and take a loan. I have always bragged about how I never compromise and am ready to risk everything with each release. It's easier to say that when you have a record label being a bank for you. This time I had to put my money where my mouth is. So if you buy the CD, you don't just buy a record with music, you buy a share of an idea, the idea and concept of art where the artist really risks everything to be able to bring out what he wants. Some of you will like the CD, some maybe not. But if you feel that I've done something worth raising a toast to over the years, there will be no better way of showing your appreciation than buying this CD. It will be sold at 15 euros and I hope the majority of those going to the shows will walk home with it after the shows.
I've been called risky and more crazy than usual with my ideas for this art project, by some of those very few who have been initiated into the mysteries of it. Even within the Band there has been quite some strong feelings about it. And clearly the record label didn't think they had a smash hit in their hands. This pretty much reminds me about the feeling when Theli was recorded. I recall the record label saying: "Do you really think we can sell this? What will your fans say?". But they didn't have much other choice than releasing it and hope for the best. They had just invested more money in the sound production than with any other Band in the history of the label - on a Band that didn't sell many records. But there were people at the label who really liked it too and carefully believed in it. Like the boss Marcus Steiger. But in the Band the atmosphere was really bad. The bass player Lars hated it to the core. "Fucking opera shit!!". The guitarist Jonas didn't like it either, it was "too much classical stuff and opera, should have been just some small elements of it as a spice". Drummer Piotr kind of liked it, but thought it as kind of odd and didn't have too much hope for it (just like myself, who thought it would flop too). But it turned out to be the album that made Therion a big band.
This time at least half of the Band thinks it's great stuff and believe in it. But now I'm risking my own money and not the record labels. When I took the decision of borrowing money and release it myself, I was officially declared out of order in the head by some people familiar with the matter. Well, we will see about that. When a fan buy a CD directly from a band it counts as if they bought 10 CD's at the store released via a record label. With loyal fans buying many CD's at the concerts, a big part of the production costs will be recovered.
Snowy will work on his own stuff meanwhile
Out of all session vocalists that Therion has worked with over the years, no one has come as close to the band as Snowy, who has been a vital part of our records and live shows for the last number of years. Now when Therion is going into another phase and Snowy did not feel the same enthusiasm as we do for making this art project and rock opera, he has decided to work with his own projects instead. He did a smaller contribution to "Les Fleurs du Mal" which sounds awesome and we're happy for that, but if he don't feel this is what he is supposed to do, then we think his decision is the right thing and he has our full support. We are sure he will create some really amazing stuff with his own project!
However, we would like to stress the fact that there are no doors shut. When we are done with our projects in a number of years and call to arms for the next regular album, we will see where things stand and what Snowy is up to at the moment. If he's available and we feel inspired together, he is more than welcome to continue where we left. If not, we feel we had a great round off with him through our long co-operation with the 25 year Anniversary tour we did in Latin America earlier this year and hope he will be successful with his own projects.
Here is a comment from Snowy him self on the matter as well:
"What can I say, I'm truly grateful for the years I had with Therion where I've had the pleasure of touring the four corners of the world as a singer and frontman and meeting and making tons of new fans and friends for life, but over the last few years the urge to move on and do my own thing has become increasingly stronger and so far in my life I've always followed my heart and what makes me happy and I see no reason why I should stop now."
Christofer Johnsson, September 2012
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Thanks for posting it, Agnes, I do not watch the websites regulary :)
Hm, after reading Christofer's post I think I will buy the CD on the show rather then from the online store... :)
I wanted to visit the show anyway - not matter if I do not know the new album or I do, like it or not. So let's see. Now I just have to get the tickets :-)
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Hi guys
looks like Snowy won't be joining this tour.. ... i'm really sad especially I wanted to hear LoC with his part so much ... what a loss for this to be the last chance to see them..and not to see Snowy ..
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I celebrate Christofers enthusiasm on the metal-opera project. I'm sure all of us will be waiting for it to emerge.
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Chris announced this album in TS in August last year but this is the first time he didn't give us ANY info!
I had some feeling from the beginning what this might be, I'll share that with you once the album is out.
Markus, what about not listening the album before release? I mean people will put it online after the concert, so i assume that will be in 5 days and there is no reason to preorder it cause I'll be in Budapest October 17th and they will ship CD 15th. Please I need you help on this one. Don't know if Chris intended to listen new songs live first cause I could avoid it for 20 days (which would be horrible) but I can't avoid people. I am going to Ensiferum concert in Zagreb and I will be staying at a friend's place and a lot of her and my friends will be with us (everybody listen Therion and will talk about that and I am talking about 10-20 people).
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well, Christofer already did a song from "the flowers....." but it was a cover: Tristesse de la lune
But cant await to hear this release !!!
Best wishes from austria
Blake
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What is the official release date?
You know, I really hate that idea that I cannot get used to the music before the show :( I like to know the rythms already so I can enjoy my favs and such.
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What is the official release date?
Today :P
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setlist from the Eindhoven show:
O Fortuna
(Carl Orff cover)
Poupée de Cire, Poupée de Son
Son of the Sun
Via Nocturna
The Flight of the Lord of Flies
J'ai Le Mal de Toi
Abraxas
Vanaheim
Gothic Kabbalah
The Siren of the Woods
Ginnungagap
Land of Canaan
Wine of Aluqah
The Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah
The Khlysti Evangelist
Une Fleur Dans le Cour
Son of the Staves of Time
Wonderous World of Punt
The Blood of Kingu
Encore:
To Mega Therion
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Thanks Agnes!!
Here I post the new video... what do you think? :unsure: :blink:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6zI8gmv10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_6zI8gmv10)
I suppose this video is not characteristic of all the album... I mean... Was "Din" very related with "Land of Canaan"? Even so, according with the name of the album, I guess it won't be "the only flower of evil" in the album :ninja:
PS. O FORTUNAAA!!!!! OH YEAAAAAAH!HHHHH!!!!!! (and so other more, like "Siren of the Woods", "To Mega Therion"... :lol3: )
PS. Anyone knows how long the other two bands play? Doors at Barcelona open at 6.30, but I'd like to know if I can enter at 8.30 or I must be before... :unsure:
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indeed! :) But I like the new album! :)
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Agnes, you were faster than me. I edited my previous post while you were writing the new post :lol3:
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what can I say ;) I can't wait to see Therion live again..
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Ah, trying to avoid set list is not so easy, guess you won't see me here till after the concert :P
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So, Offy, don't click that link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTCJs5hj3wU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTCJs5hj3wU)
A pity they don't play full O Fortuna... but we have another new song! Absolutely different from the first one (from the clip)... and more as I thought it would be :whistle:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTd3zco8Q-s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTd3zco8Q-s)
So beautiful, so sad... :bawl:
In FB I've seen the list of songs of "Les Fleurs du mal"... I suppose it's right for now to publish it:
01 - Poupée de Cire, Poupée de Son (France Gall Cover)
02 - Une Fleur Dans le Cœur (Victoire Scott Cover)
03 - Initials B.B. (Serge Gainsbourg Cover)
04 - Mon Amour, Mon Ami (Marie Laforêt Cover)
05 - Polichinelle (France Gall Cover)
06 - La Maritza (Sylvie Vartan Cover)
07 - Sœur Angélique (Annie Philippe Cover)
08 - Dis-moi Poupée (Isabelle Cover)
09 - Lilith (Léonie Cover)
10 - En Alabama (Léonie Cover)
11 - Wahala Manitou (Léonie Cover)
12 - Je N'ai Besoin que de Tendresse (Claire Dixon Cover)
13 - La Licorne D'or (Victoire Scott Cover)
14 - J'ai le Mal de Toi (Betty Mars Cover)
15 - Poupée de Cire, Poupée de Son (France Gall Cover)
Bônus
16 - Les Sucettes (France Gall Cover)
All of them are covers :lol3:
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All of the are Therionized :)
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French music will never be the same after this album :cht: :biggrin:
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...What the fuck did I just buy? :wacko:
Also, that French I learned in high school might finally come in handy.
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First impression (morning, day): okay, not bad, kinda disappointed cause I always expect too much from Therion
Second impression (evening): can't stop playing some songs, I have to sleep :bawl:
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OFFy... do you already have the disc? Have you been in the concert?? AARGGG!!!
*Dies of envy*
*DEP Luth*
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Is it really "just" covers?
Have You seen the vids? :)
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Luth, I haven't been to concert. It's 17.10. in Budapest. I don't have the disc, I will buy it on concert.
Kris, I have seen the videos and I don't like them. J'ai le Mal de Toi is ok and it's a great song.
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They are rather utypical for Therion I have to admit. Well, videos are non-typical for Therion at all. They were never really much keen on it before.
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God damned that is awesome :bow:
I dont want to spoil the fun ( I am loving youtube too) but for this release we shouldnt upload it on YT or anywhere else because Christofer had paid so much for the production from his own pocket.
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Hello!
I have heard two songs and i really dont like them, what is happening with therion? Also I saw themn in june in mexico city and i didnt enjoy the concert, it was just too false, very rockstar. I would like to hear the old therion style from lemuria and back beyond (just my humble opinion)
Cheers,
Lava
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i didn't want to hear anything of this album until i get my hands on it at the concert ( 19th october) ..but i was not strong enough to resist the YT temptation...
first reaction..furious of such a waste .. a Therion album of french covers ( sorry but after 12 years of studying it ..i'm allergic to french .. ) I was expecting something majestic ..something even better than the last one...then i started listening to more songs, and i realized its nothing ordinary about this.. its Therion!
..surprising and unique as always.. only they could have thought of a metal version of french songs ...a whole album of covers. crazy isn't it?
did they go to far? Maybe, but you would either hate it or love it ..can not stay indifferent to it..and that's good.. its so Therion like.
I'll buy the album..and go to the concert..won't miss it for the world ..
The videos are very bad though :)
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I think the album is an estrategic joke to collect money to make the opera in progress. If the opera sounds like this last album, I would not hear therion with the great feeling i was used too. I know that evolution in music is necessary, but I think it has to be eloquent with the path, and specially with the path with the great sound they used too. I mean, listen Deggial and Les Fleurs, and if you dont get angry you are not human jajajaja. I think they are losing the spark, may be the great spirit abandoned Johnsson with his hair :p
Lavanie
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So I gave the new album its first spin. It's definitely a something else.
It's enjoyable, but it's not at the same level, for me at least, as say "Lemuria" and "Sirius B". I can see the meaning behind it though, with the whole concept of the original "Les Fleurs Du Mal" of Baudelaire being a collection of poetry that was mostly about eroticism, hedonism and decadence; what I got out of it is a lot less direct than in previous releases, I like that. I find that the choice of language is also very pleasing; not because I like French at a personal level (matter of fact, one of my least favorite languages), but due to the importance and "elegance" it seems to convey. In a sense, listening to it made me feel like a 19th Century gentleman, even though the songs are all originally from the 60's and 70's.
tl;dr: I dig this, it's definitely interesting, but I still prefer older Therion material.
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I think the problem is that people compare it to other regular Therion albums while it's their anniversary album, something like A'arab Zaraq.
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Hey folks,
so today is Therion day for me. :wOOt: I'm going to Glauchau for their show there. Unfortunately I've relied on Amazon to be faster than the Therion store again, so I haven't listened to "Fleurs du Mal" yet - the album will be my souvenir from this show.
Wow, the setlist seems pretty long especially since there are some longer tracks on it. :wOOt:
I'm really curious and excited...
Cheers!
Markus
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Oh my... I still haven't written my report... Markus will do before I do!!!! :bawl:
Well... I'll be able to strongly disagree with him, and fight, and :starwars:. It'll be more fun :fish:
Markus: enjoy the show!! I'm sure you'll do! Let's see if you agree with one of my fav songs of the show (and new disc).
Have a fantastic concert!!!! :yeha:
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Whew, that sounds enthusiastic, my queen! I have no idea what the new album will sound like - so it's surprise day, and there will be complete songs i a Therion show that I can't sing along with. :afaid:
I'll be leaving in about two hours and hope to post a report by tomorrow or Sunday.
Cheers!
Markus
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I repeat... have a fantastic fantastic fantastic show!!! And say hello to Chris from me :cht:
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enjoy the show! 5 days to the show in Warsaw :D
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I will, oh Regina Mea Mala.
BTW, when I was practicing the lyrics to "O Fortuna" I realised what a cool opener that is:
"So at this hour,
Without hesitation,
Pluck the vibrating strings!"
And now I'm off. :wOOt:
Cheers!
Markus
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So here I am, sitting there with some French red wine bought specifically for this occasion, giving the new album my personal first spin.
Strange - this is the first time that I don't get the lyrics of a Therion song and probably won't ever be able to sing along with it. What can I say about the music? It's totally unexpected, something I wouldn't ever have expected from Therion. But it's darkly beautiful, very atmospheric, and you can hear the Therion in it.
So actually this is just another typical Therion-album, isn't it? Unlike all the others before it, rejected by quite a few fans, and still audibly Therion.
Also I think this one is designed to give a lot of space to the voices of Lori :wub: and Thomas.
Cheers!
Le Markus
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Strange - this is the first time that I don't get the lyrics of a Therion song and probably won't ever be able to sing along with it.
Same problem here :/
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to be honest, we can look for them in the internet ;) e.g. original one to Poupée de cire poupée de son. Let's find them all :)
Je suis une poupée de cire
Une poupée de son
Mon coeur est gravé dans mes chansons
Poupée de cire poupée de son
Suis-je meilleure suis-je pire
Qu'une poupée de salon
Je vois la vie en rose bonbon
Poupée de cire poupée de son
Mes disques sont un miroir
Dans lequel chacun peut me voir
Je suis partout à la fois
Brisée en mille éclats de voix
Autour de moi j'entends rire
Les poupées de chiffon
Celles qui dansent sur mes chansons
Poupée de cire poupée de son
Elles se laissent séduire
Pour un oui pour un non
L'amour n'est pas que dans les chansons
Poupée de cire poupée de son
Mes disques ont un miroir
Dans lequel chacun peut me voir
Je suis partout à la fois
Brisée en mille éclats de voix
Seule parfois je soupire
Je me dis à quoi bon
Chanter ainsi l'amour sans raison
Sans rien connaître des garçons
Je n'suis qu'une poupée de cire
Qu'une poupée de son
Sous le soleil de mes cheveux blonds
Poupée de cire poupée de son
Mais un jour je vivrai mes chansons
Poupée de cire poupée de son
Sans craindre la chaleur des garçons
Poupée de cire poupée de son.
ps. 2 days to Therion concert! :hop:
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I can half-understand that... :unsure:
"I am a wax doll". Damned French fetishism!
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without a translator I don't understand anything..
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You know, come to think about it...
Therion just covered the French precursor to "Barbie Girl" from 40 years ago. It's scary.
"Poupée de cire, Poupée de Son" roughly translates to "Wax Doll, Doll of his".
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i wouldnt agree on this part, since the poor devils who "sing" barbie girl would not be able to sing that song.
they are also not able to make any music or play any instrument, they only get computers beat some kind of silly rhythm.
that's imo the difference between music and non-music.
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I'm talking just about the underlying concept of women as dolls, not the actual music.
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i see, Jorge. Well, about the musical quality there can be no doubt, I guess. And the lyrics? I daresay that the Waxdoll lyrics are much more sophisticated than the Barbie stuff.
Cheers!
Markus
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about the lyrics, i think (haven't checked them all yet) that is it somehow oriented towards an idea of how to provoke people with songs that are dumb on purpose, like for example summernight city, with equally dumb words, and imo the old covers of scorpions or accept songs aren't much better either.
like baudelaire, for him that collection of poems was pure provocation for his readers, and no surprise a bunch of poems was banned in france for half a century or so. it was something that really hurt the taste or feelings of the time, but now it is consdired fine art and no longer a taboo.
now this album was maybe supposed to have the same effect, and the choice of gainsbourg, who was a delicate provocateur in all the artistic things he did, fits in this frame quite perfectly.
think about les succettes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_sucettes
in the original, the girl (who was 18, so no longer a kid) had no idea she was singing about blowjobs.
in therion's version, it is even sung by a boy..... :lol3:
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Yeah, kinjarb,
I've stumbled across the same story. The girl was wondering why so many people wanted to see her show. I've even seen a short video sequence where Gainsbourg asks her to explain the lyrics of "Les sucettes" to him. She replies by repeating the obvious content, how a little girl likes the lollipops she gets for a few cents. "And that's all, isn't it?"
She was so pissed upset when she finally understood.
Umm, has anyone told Lori...?
Cheers!
Markus
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Again, the idea that the album gave me of hedonism and eroticism surfaces once again... Obviously in a much more sophisticated manner than this century's dollification of women in Pop music. :ninja:
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Curiously, just yesterday I was playing the album, when I realized that this particular song is sung by Vickström, the only male singer in Therion right now. And I though:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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Well, the song is sung about "Annie", not by her. Thus, any guy singing it isn't put on the consumer-side of this special kind of sweets-industry but rather among the, well, suppliers.
Therefore I strongly disliked its performance by a choir of middle-aged, medium-bellied men. :fish:
Cheers!
Markus
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I translated the lyrics from French, and the transation provided was very... eeehhr... awful is a strong word enough? :blink: Even so, I think the singer is the consumer... but I can re-retranslate it again. Perhaps another software better than Google Translator? :nana:
Nah... it doesn't matter. This song is simply for fun, a "divertimento", no need to think further :biggrin:
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I know a bit of French so I could sing along.. but until now I listened just to a couple of songs and they don't impress me.. Beautiful voices, very atmospheric as said before... But to me this doesn't fit right now, I'm too much into some other stuff.. I will give it a try some time later, when I get out of this loop hole of death/thrash metal and Joe Hisaishi's masterpieces...
Plus, the art work is just ewww :sick: I really don't like it...
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I actually find the artwork to be very fitting of the album idea. And well, it's pretty hot.
Just not something I'd show my parents. :biggrin:
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I'm not sure if it's fitting or not to the album idea, I didn't take a look and a hear to the whole album.. but seriously.. it's just loads of bones.. how can that be hot? :roll-eyes:
ps - you can see boobs everywhere, nothing hot about them anymore, more than half of world population have them.. boring...
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Yes - all the videos and the artwork - it fits perfectly for the concept of the album, that is perfectly done and I like they managed to make it fit all so well together. But I agree with Saph... I do not like the concept on it's own :-)
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Hey folks,
well, the artwork really doesn't seem innovative or provocative any more, but it fits the atmosphere of the album. What's surprising and annoying me is that they didn't even print the lyrics to each song.
But then again I haven't really gone into the lyrics up to now, which is very unusual for me with a Therion album. :lol3: But as they're not the regular Karlsson-lyrics... You know, when voices like these are singing melodies like these, they may as well be singing the recipe for the perfect baguette to me, or even excerpts from the phone-book of Paris.
Cheers!
Markus
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Well, another dissapointment for me.. I just saw the new video Je n'al besoin que de tendresse... :sick:
In my opinion with the voices such as Lori and Thomas and Snowy, you really don't need to use old cheap tricks to get attention (sex, whores, strip dancers or whatever they are, alcohol)... Once you go from the grandeur and magnificence, from singing more than heaven on earth, from singing pure love and perfection to this.. it's time to really rethink whether you should continue. I understand they changed their style a lot, which is good, they lost some of the old fans, they gained some of the new in the last, lets say, 8 years... To me this approach smells of seeking shock and attention, to me it seems they ran out of ideas and did some cheap trick how to regain more listeners, especially young ones... The music is still a perfection in a way, not my kind of music, but still damn good. The whole package is simply too cheap in my view...
I know many won't agree with me, because you see overly sexualized world and culture as something normal, to me this is just too much, especially for someone like Therion.
P.s. Also saw the video and listen to J'ai le mal de toi :wub: I think I'm in love with this song, it's so beautiful :) I'm back in the Therion hook... :P I knew it wil not last long - me not liking Therion.. they always have something that just can't keep me cold and not liking them
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Hey folks,
I still want to reply to the discussion going on here, but in the meantime I'm curious: Were you aware of this (http://www.whosampled.com/sample/view/26080/Serge%20Gainsbourg-Initials%20B.B._Antonín%20Dvořák-Symphony%20No.%209,%20%22From%20the%20New%20World%22,%201st%20Movement%20(Adagio,%20Allegro%20Molto)/)?
Cheers!
Markus
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Nope, I was not aware :unsure:
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Shared by Therion in Facebook:
As a part of the Art Project related to Les Fleurs du Mal, Therion have made a video clip for Christofer's fave song on the album; Mon Amour Mon Ami.
The clip was shot at Christofer Johnsson's decadent home Villa Adulruna and shows girlfriends brutally murdering band members, female band members murdering fellow band members and lovers.
A clip a little gory and bloody. Beweare, male members of the forum!!! :evil2: :ninja: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz9WOch2jGk)
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It's all really good-looking ladies that are the murderers.
I'm not sure if this makes me want to further analyze the psyche of good-looking women or avoid them all together. :nosweat: