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Title: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Lucy on January 27, 2008, 09:25:44 am
This is a request for NeMo (or anyone who knows the answer), and a place for Tarja-related discussions. :wink2:

You mentioned Tarja Halonen the Nightwish topic, and I remembered that I wanted to know something, and never found the answer. I’ve read about the Finnish Independence Day Party:

Quote
The new DVD “End of the Innocence” was released in October 2003 worldwide.
At this point the year has already been very successful for Tarja, but it was definitely crowned by the invitation received from Finnish President Tarja Halonen and husband Dr. Arajärvi to assist to the President's Palace for the Finnish Independence Day Party, the most important social event of the country that takes place every year.

Tarja Turunen achieved a new status when Yle TV Station official web page named her as The Most Impressive dressed lady in the party according to the people vote. Also the most important Finnish daily Newspapers as Ilta Lehti and Ilta Sanomat awarded her as the Queen of the Night and the Second Most Impressive dressed lady respectively.


And, being a lady, I’m curious to see her dress but I couldn’t find it... ??? Does anyone have a picture of her wearing that dress?
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: MissSwan on January 27, 2008, 12:13:20 pm
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Swan_Heart/

there you go hon, first there are some promo pics of her in that dress and then some pictures from that actual event

:wub: that's one of my all-time favourite Tarja outfits :wub:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Lucy on January 27, 2008, 12:29:34 pm
:wOOt: Thank You very much! :yeha:

Whoa, she is so beautiful... :wub:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: saphira on January 27, 2008, 08:16:08 pm
Wooow..Tarja looks so..perfect.. :wub:..I  love that outfit!
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on January 29, 2008, 12:04:44 am
Ah Tarja... :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :wub: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

@MissSwan: I remember seeing those pics before but thanks for refreshing my memory... :thumbup: I have a hard time finding Tarja's pics on the Internet lately. :blink: And I also have a hard time finding detailed MWS reviews! :unsure: Have you maybe written some? If yes, please share it with us, and if not what do you wait? :)

Btw, I became The Seer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A0uHxtYIKc&feature=related) addicted! :blink: And this time, can you imagine that, not because of Tarja's voice! :o But because of the guitars. 8) Tarja's voice is perfect as always but those guitars sound so heavy and deep... I can feel them in my stomach! :music: :blink: :music: I like the combination of Tarja's voice and heavy guitars, they blend so perfectly, like they were meant to be for each other... ^_^

Btw, to all you who like Tarja's way of dressing, check that link! :wink2: Beside the great song, you'll see some astonishing Tarja's shosts... the latest tour included. ^_^
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: MissSwan on January 29, 2008, 06:39:13 pm
new Tarja video for Die Alive: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n346vyPhHc8
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: deathdancer on January 29, 2008, 07:53:43 pm
OMG... for the first 1min she look like a man... ugly feminised man...   :fish:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: MissSwan on January 29, 2008, 08:11:48 pm
excuse me... :blink:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: saphira on January 29, 2008, 09:11:20 pm
If I haven't known that I'm watching Tarja..I would probably think at first that it's a man..at the beginning.

@NeMo:thanks for the link!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on January 31, 2008, 02:06:12 pm
new Tarja video for Die Alive: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n346vyPhHc8

She wears that dress from the last tour, she found it in that room and took it on! :wOOt: One of my favourites... the one in which she looks more witchy than bitchy (usually it is other way around ;D)...

Btw that video is creepy! A dog biting Tarja, all those rats around... :afaid: Way creepier than I walk alone... :ninja:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: The One on January 31, 2008, 03:36:06 pm
Both videos wouldn't go among my favorites... But they are well made, that is a fact.
Again, does anyone else think that Tarja should try using her Operatic voice (sort of as in NW's "Oceanborn") as well?
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on January 31, 2008, 03:49:16 pm
Again, does anyone else think that Tarja should try using her Operatic voice (sort of as in NW's "Oceanborn") as well?

I think she cannot sing the way she did on Oceanborn anymore. Because back then she was a beginner, she had studied the singing for only couple of years... ;) But today she is able to sing in this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lv3tVs-acdw) way! :wub: I would like to have at least one song on the new album sung like that... ^_^
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Lasse on January 31, 2008, 09:40:45 pm
Again, does anyone else think that Tarja should try using her Operatic voice (sort of as in NW's "Oceanborn") as well?

That kind of voice was mostly because of the heavy editing and effects (her voice needed much work at the time).
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Mystique on February 01, 2008, 03:33:49 pm
Oh, finally a topic like this! Now we can finally stop spamming that Nightwish topic  -_-  :biggrin:

and considering the new video... well, I dunno... it's so-so... I do like her dress though...  :biggrin: I wish I found a dress like that one on the piano  :lol: and she does look kinda weird at the beginning  :unsure: but all in all, it's okay...   -_- The 'I walk alone' video is much better IMHO.

However, they should have made a video to The Seer rather than to this song...  :wub:  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
but okay  :lol:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 01, 2008, 06:30:03 pm
@Lasse: what do you think is Tarja soprano or mezzo-soprano? :unsure:

Oh, finally a topic like this! Now we can finally stop spamming that Nightwish topic  -_-  :biggrin:

Indeed we can, but the the question is "Do we want to?". :fish:

I wish I found a dress like that one on the piano  :lol:

Errr... the piano? :blink:

and she does look kinda weird at the beginning  :unsure:

Oh no... not you too! :ninja: First DD says Tarja looks like an ugly feminised man and then suddenly everybody thinks the same... you have all fallen under his influence I say! :nana:

However, they should have made a video to The Seer rather than to this song...  :wub:  :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Yes The Seer! :wOOt: And after that Boy and the Ghost too... and  then The Poison... and Oasis too... and... and... :biggrin:


Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: deathdancer on February 01, 2008, 07:03:55 pm
Oh no... not you too! :ninja: First DD says Tarja looks like an ugly feminised man and then suddenly everybody thinks the same... you have all fallen under his influence I say! :nana:

Yes... I'm the manipulator.  :tongue:

Luth, I want my rank being changed from "Revolution Leader" to "Chief Manipulator" :lol3:

 :ninja:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Mystique on February 01, 2008, 08:44:55 pm
Errr... the piano? :blink:

 :blink: haha  :nosweat: I kinda convinced myself it was a piano...  maybe I should watch it once more?  :nosweat:

Oh no... not you too! :ninja: First DD says Tarja looks like an ugly feminised man and then suddenly everybody thinks the same... you have all fallen under his influence I say! :nana:

What? She does look weird! Oh come on!  :tongue:

Yes The Seer! :wOOt: And after that Boy and the Ghost too... and  then The Poison... and Oasis too... and... and... :biggrin:

 :wOOt: that's right! Poison!  :wub: 
and don't forget Damned Vampires & Gothic Divine...and Ciaran's Well...and...and...  :biggrin:

Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 01, 2008, 08:57:21 pm
Errr... the piano? :blink:

 :blink: haha  :nosweat: I kinda convinced myself it was a piano...  maybe I should watch it once more?  :nosweat:

Let me admit something... :innocent: I also thought it was a piano while watching the video for the first time... and I posted that! :lol3: But then I watched it more thoroughly and realized that it was actually a table... :wacko: And I edited my post, I hope nobody saw that... :P I put instead just room, because I was afraid that it might turn out it's neither a table! :afaid:
:biggrin:

Oh no... not you too! :ninja: First DD says Tarja looks like an ugly feminised man and then suddenly everybody thinks the same... you have all fallen under his influence I say! :nana:

What? She does look weird! Oh come on!  :tongue:

Looks quite normally to me... :P
Btw, I'm under DD's influence only during the chat, although even then I resist and say a lot of things directly into his face. :fish: But as soon as the chat window is closed, I'm again 100% mine... ;D
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Mystique on February 02, 2008, 08:27:57 pm
Let me admit something... :innocent: I also thought it was a piano while watching the video for the first time... and I posted that! :lol3:

that's right! It was you!
That's why I thought it was a piano...cuz I read it  :mad3: well thank you  :tongue:  :insane:

Btw, I'm under DD's influence only during the chat, although even then I resist and say a lot of things directly into his face. :fish: But as soon as the chat window is closed, I'm again 100% mine... ;D

you have to decide under whose influence you are, NeMo!  :fish: You cannot be under everyone's influence! Like...jeez!  :lol3:
 Or can you? :ninja:  :fish:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 02, 2008, 08:55:06 pm
Let me admit something... :innocent: I also thought it was a piano while watching the video for the first time... and I posted that! :lol3:

that's right! It was you!
That's why I thought it was a piano...cuz I read it  :mad3: well thank you  :tongue:  :insane:

Seems like someone is under MY influence... :fish:

you have to decide under whose influence you are, NeMo!  :fish:

And who is telling me that? ::) Don't forget that I still read the official forum... And after that I can only say that I do NOT want to read your MSN history... :ninja: :afaid: :biggrin:

And now back to the topic... the production of guitars and drums on Tarja's album and new Avantasia reminds me very much. They sound somehow "sharper" and less in the background than "usually" (who said Finnvox? :P). Btw, I like new Avantasia! :thumbup:

I'm happy I'll have something to enjoy in the days to come even if new Avantasia disappoints me! :afaid: And that CAN happen... those EPs... Lost In Space :-\... it's not that I dislike them but they sound somehow too much "happy", if you know what I want to say (notice I didn't say "gay" :biggrin:). I miss the darker sound of the old Avantasia...

Fortunately, it did not disappoint me... it sounds less "happy" than those EPs.
I would be so happy to see Tobi and Tarja cooperate one day... *drools* They should call the project T&T (short for Tobi & Tarja or Tarja & Tobi :P), and the album name could be D&D (short for Dandy & Diva or Diva & Dandy :P)... :biggrin:

@Lucy: would you please edit your first post and change the topic title into "About Tarja and Tobi". :) This forum unfortunately does not have enough "discussion capacity" to afford having separate topics about each band, they all just die after several posts... mine usually being the last one... :biggrin: But now I would REALLY like to discuss about new Avantasia with someone... :-\

Btw. I love new Avantasia lyrics  :wOOt:

And what do you think about the music DD?

21st time and still counting...
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: deathdancer on February 02, 2008, 09:16:20 pm
Avantasia...
Music is not exactly my taste anymore. I love most of the playing except keyboard parts.
Vocal is... too powerish... It has been long time since I was listening to that kind of music. But it is not necessary bad thing. Sometimes I find it refreshing.
I guess I just need to get used to it again.

The album all in all is fantastic, but I think less powerful than Metal Opera pt.1 and some parts of pt.2 that sometimes gave me shivers.
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 02, 2008, 10:02:15 pm
The album all in all is fantastic, but I think less powerful than Metal Opera pt.1 and some parts of pt.2 that sometimes gave me shivers.

I agree with this... The Metal Opera pt. 1 and 2 also gave me shivers, but The Scarecrow does not. I cannot easily decide which one is my favourite but I guess it would be Part 2, because of the song The Seven Angels, my definite Avantasia #1 (and because Bob Catley is there... a really nice voice :))... but it was really close. Almost all singers sing in that song, and they change all the time! One sings couple of sentences and then the next one... and so on through 15min! Powerful! :bow: That is something I generally prefer about The Metal Operas to The Scarecrow, more changes of singers. :thumbup:
However, I think The Scarecrow is still a great album, with great performers on it... Roy Khan is also there! Btw, I will see him live soon... :yeha: Michael Kiske is there too, I like him... and Bob Catley too! ^_^
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: deathdancer on February 02, 2008, 10:48:52 pm
The Seven Angels is masterpeace, but I can't say pt.2 is better only because of that song. Without it, that album would be nothing.
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 03, 2008, 03:17:23 pm
The Seven Angels is masterpeace, but I can't say pt.2 is better only because of that song. Without it, that album would be nothing.

I disagree. I think the whole album is a masterpiece, except maybe for two last songs Memory and Into the Unknown... I find them somehow weak... :unsure: Even Sharon den Adel didn't save the last one... And how could she when she sings only 15 seconds! :mad: But I almost die during the first four songs - first two there is Michael Kiske and the next two Bob Catley! ^_^ Pity that's all Kiske sings in the second part, because his character, that druid, gets killed in the story or something... :unsure: Luckily, we've gotten more than enough of him in the first part! :thumbup: And a little bit in the third part... 8)

And here is the link (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aC-FqllS6Ls) to the official video for Carry Me Over. Freeze it on 1:54... isn't that guy resembling you to OFFy a little? ;D

@Lucy: haha, I like the new title of the topic... it's PERFECT for me! :) I like to speak about everything, mentioning Tarja here and there... ;D Speaking about Tarja....mmmmmmmmmmm... those cheekbones... :wub: Is anybody else here in love with Tarja's cheekbones? :biggrin:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Mystique on February 03, 2008, 04:18:35 pm
no! stop spamming this topic you guys!
spamming is bad  :disgust:   :fish:

edit: oopsie, I haven't seen that ''and so on...'' addition to the title of the topic  :nosweat:
all apologies  :whistle:  :pop:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on February 03, 2008, 04:36:26 pm
edit: oopsie, I haven't seen that ''and so on...'' addition to the title of the topic  :nosweat:
all apologies  :whistle:  :pop:

and so on...? and so OFF! :disgust:

@Misti: please take a deep breath before you click on the post button next time... :pop:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Mystique on February 03, 2008, 04:51:47 pm
my mistake...
happy now?  :roll-eyes:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on February 03, 2008, 06:41:54 pm
New single cover:

(http://www.metalfromfinland.com/albumimages/imgdie%20alive.JPG)

:bow:

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7126/90374049svfuqlagimg1166cv0.jpg)

Those cheekbones... she is beautiful... :wub:

Btw, did you know that this new video was also shot in Berlin, like "I walk alone"! I think that makes Berlin even more cool... ;D

And more of Tarja...

Tarja singing this neat song from that fabulous Webber's musical "The Phantom Of The Opera":  The Music of the Night (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tDo4Rp5aqWE) ^_^

Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: saphira on February 03, 2008, 09:04:28 pm
hmmm..what to say...beautiful beautiful voice  :wub:..and the colour of the dress suits her very much..it's just that the dress.looks a bit uncomfortable to me..

and I like the new single cover!She looks like a queen!..  :bow:.(well, I mean she always does  :P)
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: deathdancer on February 03, 2008, 10:27:05 pm
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7126/90374049svfuqlagimg1166cv0.jpg)

OMG, she looks retarded  :lol3:

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Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on February 03, 2008, 10:36:20 pm
OMG, she looks retarded  :lol3:

@DD: let me guess... ugly feminised man again? :P

@Misti: just try to agree with DD this time! :ninja:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: deathdancer on February 04, 2008, 01:37:40 pm
@DD: let me guess... ugly feminised man again? :P
no...  :blink:

I said:
"OMG, she looks retarded"

meaning:
She has a face in strange position, jaws opened and hands flying through the air uncontrolled.

ok... I think I should stop now  :unsure:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Mystique on February 04, 2008, 02:27:12 pm
OMG I love that song as well as the whole musical! OMG!  :wub:
oh and by the way, I love the dress Tarja's wearing in the video...have I already said that?  :nosweat: yes I have...  :pop: maybe it would be better to ask...HOW MANY times have I said that?  :biggrin:
but it's simply  :bow:

@Misti: just try to agree with DD this time! :ninja:

is that a karma boosting challenge?  :insane:

Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Lasse on February 04, 2008, 03:43:12 pm
@Lasse: what do you think is Tarja soprano or mezzo-soprano? :unsure:


Tarja used to be a mezzo, but now she's a lyrical soprano, I think the change was around 2002-2004. Her range expanded and her sound also changed.

And I don't like that Music of the night. Sounds bad when she sings the deeper parts, she has way too much and lazy vibrato, and that high note is powerless. She often sounds like she's "climbing up" to the notes, not hitting them normally in the beginning.

But anyway, this is not the topic for serious discussion, sorry for bothering you. :P :nana:

Ps. Avantasia sucks. :muaha: :sofa:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 04, 2008, 04:00:51 pm
Tarja used to be a mezzo, but now she's a lyrical soprano, I think the change was around 2002-2004. Her range expanded and her sound also changed.

How is that possible? ??? You are born with a range that can change a bit in the puberty but not when you are 25? :unsure:

But anyway, this is not the topic for serious discussion, sorry for bothering you. :P :nana:

The topic? You mean THE FORUM! :biggrin:

Ps. Avantasia sucks. :muaha: :sofa:

OK Lasse. I'll forgive you that if you give the correct answer to the following question... :P

Tarja ? Anette

> or < :biggrin:

edit:

Btw, did you know that this new video was also shot in Berlin, like "I walk alone"! I think that makes Berlin even more cool... ;D

Oh and one more thing that makes Berlin even MORE cool... I live there! 8) How could I forget that one... ;D

23rd time and still counting...
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Lasse on February 04, 2008, 06:15:32 pm

How is that possible? ??? You are born with a range that can change a bit in the puberty but not when you are 25? :unsure:


Your voice is fully developed around the age of 35, Tarja's still only 30. Yes, you're pretty much born with a range, but you need to learn how to use it. It's not a matter of doing a school, it's a never-ending learning process. Ask Lori, she's a pretty experienced singer, yet she still had new experiences with Therion. :)

Or another example is Simone from Epica, she was and still is a mezzo, but she's getting better and better in handling higher ranges (she's only 23 now, so anything can happen). Their last album has some pretty challanging vocal lines.



OK Lasse. I'll forgive you that if you give the correct answer to the following question... :P

Tarja ? Anette


That's an easy one. ^_^

Tarja > Anette

No matter how imperfect Tarja is for a real classical singer, I still loved her work with Nightwish. (And I also love some of her solo stuff.) :biggrin:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 04, 2008, 06:51:42 pm
Or another example is Simone from Epica, she was and still is a mezzo, but she's getting better and better in handling higher ranges (she's only 23 now, so anything can happen).

Sorry if this is to sound stupid, but I think I've read somewhere that it is the timbre(colour) of the voice that primarily determines whether someone is soprano or mezzo and not the range. So that it can happen that some mezzos can go higher than some sopranos? :unsure:


That's an easy one. ^_^

Tarja > Anette

And what about this one... :biggrin:

Avril ? Anette

No matter how imperfect Tarja is for a real classical singer, I still loved her work with Nightwish. (And I also love some of her solo stuff.) :biggrin:

I'll answer to this one by quoting YOU! :nana:

How can someone not like her? :bow: ::fanboy:: :biggrin:

:biggrin:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Lasse on February 04, 2008, 07:01:32 pm

Sorry if this is to sound stupid, but I think I've read somewhere that it is the timbre(colour) of the voice that primarily determines whether someone is soprano or mezzo and not the range. So that it can happen that some mezzos can go higher than some sopranos? :unsure:


Yes, but the colour can change also (just like pretty much everything can change). Simone has a much sweeter, lighter voice now than 4 years ago (apart from being able to handle higher notes). I wouldn't say mezzo to her now, but she keeps saying she's a mezzo, so whatever.



And what about this one... :biggrin:

Avril ? Anette


Avril > or = Anette
Avril at least writes some own music, she plays guitar, and doesn't yodel in live concerts. :biggrin:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: saphira on February 04, 2008, 09:38:29 pm


Avril > or = Anette
Avril at least writes some own music, she plays guitar, and doesn't yodel in live concerts. :biggrin:

hehehehe.. :lol3:..yodel.. :insane:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Lasse on February 04, 2008, 10:38:14 pm
How would you calll this as not yodeling? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzLTas_un0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNzLTas_un0)

Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 05, 2008, 07:13:34 pm
And I don't like that Music of the night. Sounds bad when she sings the deeper parts, she has way too much and lazy vibrato, and that high note is powerless. She often sounds like she's "climbing up" to the notes, not hitting them normally in the beginning.

"lazy" vibrato... "climbing up" to the notes... sorry Lasse, but all those "bookish worm" expressions of yours are just too much for me... I still think Tarja owns! :nana:

But today she is able to sing in this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lv3tVs-acdw) way! :wub:

"lazy" vibrato? "climbing up" to the notes? ;D

Tarja used to be a mezzo, but now she's a lyrical soprano, I think the change was around 2002-2004. Her range expanded and her sound also changed.

I think it's not a coincidence, those changes happened then... because in 2003 she got married to Marcelo! And he turned her into a diva! :biggrin: You see, the transformation mezzo2soprano was only one step in that direction. ;) Because you cannot be a mezzo diva, all divas are sopranos! :lol3:

Simone has a much sweeter, lighter voice now than 4 years ago

She has beautiful cheekbones too... ah... :wub:

Your voice is fully developed around the age of 35

And Anette is 36! :-\ :ninja: :afaid: :bye:



:biggrin:

25th time and still counting...
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: Mystique on February 05, 2008, 07:16:44 pm
all divas are sopranos! :lol3:

That's why you'll never be a diva!  :fish:

And Anette is 36! :-\ :ninja: :afaid: :bye:



:biggrin:

ROFLMAO! Good one NeMo...  :lol3: this is what I like to call a good smiley combination  :insane:
Title: Re: About Tarja
Post by: NeMo on February 05, 2008, 07:37:21 pm
That's why you'll never be a diva!  :fish:

To be an Internet troll is quite enough for me... :biggrin: Speaking about trolling I have made two nice pics in Berlin. Or to be more precise one nice and one ugly... :P

(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7640/img1016wb2.th.jpg) (http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1016wb2.jpg)

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5274/img0879aa2.th.jpg) (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0879aa2.jpg)

:tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

No further comments needed...
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on February 15, 2008, 06:04:17 pm
I don't like german.  :-\

BLASPHEMY!!! :chair:





http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O_vMEvcPDGs&feature=related

Hey wolfshade, and what about Tarja singing in German? ;D :P
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: wolfshade on February 15, 2008, 06:48:49 pm
Well, Tarja and german good combination, really.  ;D :P
But I don't like german, sorry.  :D
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on February 15, 2008, 06:52:31 pm
Well, Tarja and german good combination, really.  ;D :P

Wrong wolfshade.... Tarja and EVERYTHING good combination, really. :fish:

edit: and yes... even Nirvana! ;D
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: wolfshade on February 15, 2008, 06:55:35 pm
Well, Tarja and german good combination, really.  ;D :P

Wrong wolfshade.... Tarja and EVERYTHING good combination, really. :fish:

Wrong! Tarja and Smells like teen spirit - not.  :whistle:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on February 15, 2008, 06:59:12 pm
Wrong! Tarja and Smells like teen spirit - not.  :whistle:

Don't let those babies cloud your judgement! ;) Babies cry ALL the time... :biggrin:

Btw and what about Over The Hills And Far Away & Poison? :P
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: wolfshade on February 15, 2008, 07:04:27 pm
Tarja's Poison was very funny for me at first listening, but it's great song [and her pro bro rules  :D].

OTHAFA I don't like. Even she's good in it. 8)

But Smells... is really a bad one.  :biggrin:
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Post by: Mystique on February 15, 2008, 08:31:09 pm
What are you talking about? Over The Hills And Far Away is awesome! I even prefer the remake to the original... And about Poison... Dunno... it was kinda weird at first, because I was used to the Alice Cooper's voice, but now I prefer the remake...who'd say :biggrin:
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Post by: saphira on February 15, 2008, 08:34:49 pm
What are you talking about? Over The Hills And Far Away is awesome! I even prefer the remake to the original..


hehe Misti exactly what I wanted to say! I love that song when it's sung by Tarja!   :wub:
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Post by: NeMo on February 26, 2008, 05:52:00 pm
Nice news from Tarja... :thumbup:

Quote from: Tarja
The other reason to visit the island beside the geography was that my friends from Ibiza, Torsten and Angela, are now living here! This creative couple is making music for many artists, both locals and international. We have already written together 'The Reign' and 'Damned And Divine' so I decided to start the process for the follow-up to 'My Winter Storm' album NOW. I have some ideas already for it and I am sure I am able to put them together with the help of Torsten and Angela. I am very happy to be able to start working for the next album already, even though there are still many concerts to come during 2008 to present 'My Winter Storm'.

More gigs... new album... :wOOt:

Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: saphira on February 26, 2008, 06:06:23 pm
Wow! She's quick!  :bow:..no holidays just work..huh.. :unsure:..well at least she's doing something she loves and is damn good at !
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Post by: NeMo on February 26, 2008, 06:38:19 pm
well at least she's doing something she loves

Not only she loves it... :P
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Post by: Mystique on February 27, 2008, 02:12:07 pm
 :yeha: :yeha: :yeha:

Man, she's fast!

 :yeha: :yeha: :yeha:

Can't wait for the new album  :wub:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on March 01, 2008, 06:16:51 pm
Man, I was blind like a mole! :bye: Tuomas had right all the time, Tarja DID behave like a diva and DID treat other band members like they were lower life forms! I have found a vid on YouTube proving that... :afaid:

Tarja acting like a diva and treating Jukka like a lower life form!!! (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VLgRjIxEHlQ) :o

The video was shot couple of months prior to her dismissal from Nightwish, now I see deserved. ;) And I thought Tuomas' public letter was just a bunch of jealous and vengeful lies. :ninja: How could I be so blind and naive... how!? :P
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Post by: Mystique on March 01, 2008, 11:19:06 pm
Gosh, you're right!  :afaid: And Tuomas was right when he said all those things! We have all been blind!  :bye: But there are more questions...Why would such an action make Tuomas fire Tarja? ...hmm...Maybe Tuomas was jealous beacuse he wasn't in Jukka's place...but that leads us to the question: why didn't he fire Jukka instead? Also, that might be when he started hating Tarja...because she was acting like a diva towards everyone...except for him?  :unsure:
But then again, he might have been jealous of Tarja, cuz she got the opportunity to do that? hmm...we'll never know what's going on in that big head of Tuomas'.  :unsure:

:P
 :fish:

Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Sirius13 on March 02, 2008, 12:14:09 am
Having seen the evidence, it's quite clear to me that she is just outrageously violent.

See how she hits him in just such a professional way to avoid leaving any tell-tale marks or bruises?  And she's even managed to manipulate you poor deluded fools into thinking that it was an act of some kind of Diva-ship! 

Wake up!!  She's clearly filled with vitriolic rage and unending spite!!  :ninja:


Someone should stop her before she kills [again]  :afaid:

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Post by: saphira on March 02, 2008, 08:54:04 am
@NeMo:  :lol3:  :lol3:  :lol3:
What a brutal violence!    :evil2:

 :P
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on March 02, 2008, 07:16:01 pm
Someone should stop her before she kills [again]  :afaid:

She is already writing new songs for her second album, new single is to hit stores this week, and yesterday new tour dates have been added to her website! Sorry Triocton, many have tried but Tarja cannot be stopped... :ninja:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: wolfshade on March 02, 2008, 10:46:04 pm
Tarja, naughty girl!  :biggrin: poor Jukka. :fish:

OT: NeMo, you have mail.  :P
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Post by: NeMo on March 03, 2008, 11:03:51 am
Tarja, naughty girl!  :biggrin: poor Jukka. :fish:

I cannot imagine Maria Callas doing that... Tarja will never be a tr00 diva... :P

Here's another funny comment from YouTube Smells Like Teen Spirit

Quote from: keinengelbr
scary. she sounds like an evil stepmother singing nirvana as a creepy lullaby.

Evil stepmother... :lol3:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: wolfshade on March 04, 2008, 10:28:59 am
I cannot imagine Maria Callas doing that... Tarja will never be a tr00 diva... :P
Well, I can't imagine her either... but she'll be diva anyway foriver.  :biggrin:

Quote from: keinengelbr
scary. she sounds like an evil stepmother singing nirvana as a creepy lullaby.
so true.  :lol3: :P :biggrin:
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Post by: NeMo on March 04, 2008, 07:09:49 pm
Well, I can't imagine her either... but she'll be diva anyway foriver.  :biggrin:

Just listening to Ghost Love Score live... Oceans away from the weakful day... :biggrin: But her English has significantly improved since she was kicked out of Nightwish. :thumbup: Plus she speaks Finnish, Spanish and a little of Swedish and German... :bow:

And now about the diva part... I think you have been manipulated by Tuomas' jealous and vengeful lies wolfshade. ;) He is a selfish and obsessive manipulator. It is obvious from that previous link of mine that she didn't behave like a diva and didn't ignore other band members... except for Tuomas. Because he had been intrusive towards her for years despite the fact that she had said to him openly there was going to be nothing between them because she had been happily in love with Marcello since the year 2000 when she was attacked in Mexico (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ukFEGdzKk) and when he saved her, despite the fact he was 20m away, while Tuomas was only 1m away! ::) If there hadn't been Marcello, that guy would have raped Tarja before Tuomas "who cares, I'll just keep on playing my keyboards" Holopainen would have remembered to help her. And like that wasn't enough, all the band members left her to cry alone in the backstage so that Marcello had to console her... he who had known her for ONLY one week back then. ::) Nobody should be surprised she fell in love with Marcello and not with Tuomas. ::) And after all that Tuomas was intrusively trying to win her heart for years... it is a natural defensive instinct to ignore someone is a such situation, nothing to do with divaship... ;)

Quote from: keinengelbr
scary. she sounds like an evil stepmother singing nirvana as a creepy lullaby.
so true.  :lol3: :P :biggrin:

Diva.. bitch... evil stepmother... what's next? ;D I say a witch! :wOOt: Watch Die Alive video carefully when she takes on that dress over her hand, the blood is gone, her hand is healed! The dress is enchanted... and all those dogs and rats following her... Tarja is a witch I tell you! :afaid:
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Post by: Mystique on March 04, 2008, 11:36:22 pm
Yes, I remember seeing that video a long time ago. And may I say, I am as surprised now as I was back then. Like, they would have continued on playing no matter what had happened. If Marcello hadn't jumped in, who knows what that maniac would have done to Tarja, and who knows if Tuomas, or anyone else from the band, as for that matter, would have done anything.

He could have raped her, as NeMo said, and... what? Obviously not stopping their music more important to Tuomas than well being of the leading singer...   :bye: And he used to 'feel for her', or so he claimed :P Not a very great way to convince someone how good person you are...   :tomat:

And yes, some may say, that's what security guards are there for, but still...  :afaid: Sami could also have done something, instead of simply stepping over them :wacko:

Hmm...I wonder if they would do anything if something like this happened to Anette...  :lol: But I guess we don't have to worry about that because it's highly unlikely something like that will ever happen to her...  :whistle:  :fish:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on March 05, 2008, 11:57:33 am
And yes, some may say, that's what security guards are there for, but still...

But still to stand 1m away waiting for security guards to save your beloved one from being raped... a big NO... :bye:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on March 05, 2008, 01:57:01 pm
More hilarious YouTube comments! :biggrin: This one is from Tarja's performance of Passion and the Opera in Zuerich. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IlLGrb_r-s)

Quote from: reindeerride
Tarja Turunen, if you beleived you could go on your own why are you singing Nightwish songs? Stop that! They belong to Anette now.

Passion and the Opera belongs to Anette... LMAO!!! Tuomas will write a new one for her, called Passion and the Pop. Dark Passion and the Pop Play... :lol3:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: wolfshade on March 06, 2008, 10:04:59 pm
No comment. Some people really are stupid.  :lol3:

But anyways, NW songs belong to Anette now.  :biggrin: :fish:

NeMo, you really don't like the new voice?  :unsure: ;D
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Post by: NeMo on March 07, 2008, 09:10:33 pm
But anyways, NW songs belong to Anette now.  :biggrin: :fish:

No! Anette should sing onle her songs and leave Tarja's songs alone... :biggrin:

While on the other hand Tarja can sing whatever she wants because she simply rulez! :fish:
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Post by: wolfshade on March 07, 2008, 09:17:41 pm
No! Anette should sing onle her songs and live Tarja's songs alone... :biggrin:

which ones, ABBA covers?  :biggrin:

While on the other hand Tarja can sing whatever she wants because she simply rulez! :fish:

Except erm... Smells Like Teen Spirit?  :fish:


OT: wooosh, got 3 stars!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on March 08, 2008, 08:21:48 pm
@wolfshade: did you post this naughty comment on Die Alive? :fish:

Quote
Css Css! Go doggy, go! Good doggy! Bite her til she "dies alive"!
:P
Gosh, how can someone die dead?!
This doesn't make any sense!
And the video, with that dragonball thing, and blue fire, and all that...
RIDICULOUS!

:biggrin:

Btw, I like the blue fire... ^_^
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Post by: wolfshade on March 09, 2008, 12:46:12 pm
@wolfshade: did you post this naughty comment on Die Alive? :fish:

Yeah right.  :fish:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on March 22, 2008, 09:27:24 pm
Quote from: My Angels Dream
An Australian gay site, www.samesame.com.au, elected Tarja as the 18th singer who attracts gay people. Credit for this info goes to Imm.

:roll:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: NeMo on May 14, 2008, 09:17:33 pm
Tarja plays Wishmaster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGDh92uGSc) on her new tour! :wOOt: The war continues... :wicking: :biggrin:
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Post by: wolfshade on May 15, 2008, 09:44:11 am
Tarja plays Wishmaster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGDh92uGSc) on her new tour! :wOOt: The war continues... :wicking: :biggrin:

Lame.  :fish: which NW song is she going to play next?  :roll-eyes:
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Post by: Mystique on May 15, 2008, 02:22:41 pm
Nothing's lame with that, although, having seen the video, I can say the song simply lacks that old NW atmosphere ...

but I think it's okay that Tarja sings NW songs...why not?

but all in all, have I already mentioned how much I liked that dress? :P
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Post by: NeMo on May 15, 2008, 04:02:33 pm
Lame.  :fish: which NW song is she going to play next?  :roll-eyes:

Amaranth! :wOOt: :biggrin:

Nothing's lame with that, although, having seen the video, I can say the song simply lacks that old NW atmosphere ...

You mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wC2U7zeAg) atmosphere? :biggrin:

but I think it's okay that Tarja sings NW songs...why not?

And what do you think is it OK that Anette sings Tarja's songs? :P


Die Alive live in Warsaw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0yJYALnBuY :bow:

@ws: 0:35 & 1:20 ;D :fish:
Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Mystique on May 15, 2008, 07:08:15 pm
You mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wC2U7zeAg) atmosphere? :biggrin:

no, I mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRwz0RoJcJE) one.
jeez...NW + NWsongs + Tarja = good atmosphere, NW + NWsongs + Anette = bad atmosphere, NWsongs + Tarja alone =  :unsure:
by NW I mean Tuomas, Jukka, Emppu and Marco

jftr, this is only considering the atmosphere on the stage...yes, the music is still the same, and yes, her voice is still the same...but the atmosphere isn't...she created whole new atmosphere with her album which is in my opinion not NW-like...it's weird watching her singing NW songs with the MWS atmosphere on the stage...
get it?

And what do you think is it OK that Anette sings Tarja's songs? :P

Anette hasn't sung a single song by Tarja...

Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: <+DisciplesOfTheWatch! OBEY!!! OrI'llBurnYouToThatCROSS!!!+> on May 15, 2008, 07:42:46 pm
You mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wC2U7zeAg) atmosphere? :biggrin:


Comedy gold!  :lol3:
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Post by: wolfshade on May 15, 2008, 09:10:05 pm
Well,

Nemo
Passion and the Opera
Wishmaster

and accidentally

Phantom of the Opera
Walking in the air

Is she really going to walk alone like she said once so long ago?  :roll-eyes: :roll-eyes:

Anette hasn't sung a single song by Tarja...

.
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Post by: NeMo on May 16, 2008, 10:29:25 pm
Well,

Nemo
Passion and the Opera
Wishmaster

and accidentally

Phantom of the Opera
Walking in the air

To sing a song from a band is the greatest homage one could pay to that band. :fish:

You mean this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wC2U7zeAg) atmosphere? :biggrin:


Comedy gold!  :lol3:

Comedy quadruple platinum! :biggrin:

edit:
@ws: Over The Hills And Far Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPTlcRvI3k&feature=related) by Tarja & Toni :P

Toni only needs to be died green to look exactly like the Hulk! :lol3:

(http://www.mocpages.com/user_thumbnails/neodragonm@yahoo.com/www.sptimes.com_2003_06_23_photos_xprs-hulk.jpg_SPLASH.jpg)

Title: Re: About Tarja and so off...
Post by: Lasse on May 20, 2008, 08:30:12 pm
Playing the whole MWS wouldn't make a running time enough for a headliner show. What do people expect from her to cover, Nirvana again? -_-

I'd pay to see Tarja & co. doing NW songs, but not Anette & co. I don't care who wrote what songs, Nightwish covered quite a few songs as well. :)