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Main Forum => Music Topic => Topic started by: lavaniegosII on October 23, 2007, 12:15:32 am
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Hello dear folks:
Ixtlan is my band and finally we have updated a song called Axis Mundi
www.myspace.com/iixtlan
Soon I´ll post the lyrics in spanish and english
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Spanish above, English below
Ixtlan
Axis Mundi
Serpiente del cosmos
desciende al mundo
ofreciendo los frutos
de la verdad
Axis mundi,
árbol que transporta
Serpiente de lluvia
¡vacía el pozo,
bebe sabiduría,
da tu ojo!
Ascendiendo y descendiendo
en busca de otra realidad
Coro
Ascensión extática
Caracol Tolteca
Repta y Vuela
¨Descensus ad Inferos¨
Innana, Kali, Coatlicue, Amateratsu & Afrodita
Descenderá
Renacerá
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Ixtlan
Axis mundi
Serpent of the cosmos
descent to the world
offering the fruits
of truth.
Axis mundi,
the tree which transports.
Serpent of the rain
!empty the well,
drink wisdom,
give your eye!
Ascending and descending
searching for the other reality
Chorus
Static Asencion
Toltec snail
Repta* and fly
¨Descensus ad Inferos¨
(she)will descend
(she)will reborn
*Repta is a word derived from ¨Reptile¨. Reptar in spanish is the act of move of the reptile.
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Good song dude, I liked it.
Any art I could help you out with? :biggrin:
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Good song dude, I liked it.
Any art I could help you out with? :biggrin:
We want a logo man. The one we have is provisional but is more or less the idea we want of it (with Ouroboros). If you could do some ideas I would be very grateful.
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Congratulations! I like your song, I think it's a very good start. :thumbup: Let us hear other songs too please!
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Umm... I'm facing my usual problem: Due to my slow internet connection I need a direct downloading link. Got one, Lava?
Cheers!
Markus
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Hej lava!
I like that song! I was fairly surprised :wOOt:
And the idea of Ouroboros is good (:
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Umm... I'm facing my usual problem: Due to my slow internet connection I need a direct downloading link. Got one, Lava?
Cheers!
Markus
Well, I really don´t know how that works but I´m going to ask a friend who knows those kind of things.
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I want to download that song too. I am not big fan of myspace :P
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Do somebody knows how to make a link for downloading the song?? ???
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Do You have some FTP client?
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Do You have some FTP client?
What is that (sorry for my ignorance)? :ninja:
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It's File Transfer Protocol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol). Total Commander for example supports it.
or easier way: www.zshare.net (http://www.zshare.net)
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ixtlan - axis mundi.mp3 - 7.45MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/44706440088a88/)
There is the link
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Here is another song : Viaje a Ixtlan.
ixtlan - viaje a ixtlan.mp3 - 7.28MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/45169358b65462/)
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After discussing all the options for the logo we finally have one.
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/lavaniegos/Logoserpenteadonegrochica.jpg)
Thank you The One for your ideas but they didn't fixed in the ideals of the band (I like one, but the others in the band didn't)
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This logo does not seem brutal or metal enough to me... :disgust: It looks psychedelic even.
But well, if the majority picked it... What can I do?
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That's because psychedellic and progresive rock is a big influence for the band. Bands like Uriah heep, Eloy, Deep Purple, early Pink floyd, Grobshnitt, etc.
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Hi Lavaniegos,
i find pretty good the concept of your band, i enjoy when people share a little bit of his culture throughout music
keep rocking :thumbup:
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Yup, the logo reminds me of early Pink Floyd. For me, that's always a plus.
Viaje a Ixtlan totally blew me away. Love the drums - at times they've got that beautiful jazzy feel to them. Give your drummer more jazz to listen to and he'll surprise you, just don't allow him to use just basic drumming patterns. Some of the passages are quite inventive. Jazz ftw!
The song flows beautifully and it'd be great if I understood a word of the language, but that's my fault, not yours.
The vocals are too loud (when compared to the other instruments) and lack practice - I was under the impression that the singer knew her stuff, but wasn't used to this kind of thing. She needs to immerse herself more in the songs. Then again, that's something that comes with time. She's definitely on the right track, though.
The guitars could've been a bit louder, but that's the guitarist in my complaining.
The thing that would've made the songs much better for me is different lyrics. Not sure if I'm talking about the same lyrics in English (so I could sing along) or about a different set altogether, with more down-to-earth themes and images... I've just got that nagging something something feeling in the back of my head. Ignore it. It's not a musical flaw, it's just a random thought you shouldn't pay attention to. The most important thing is that, even though the lyrics aren't my cup of tea, I still like them and they don't detract from the music at all. That's a win if I ever so one.
After listening to the songs a few times, I wholeheartedly support the current logo :)
You guys play a blend of 70es prog mixed with metal and the logo highlights the prog elements. As I love prog,
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Yup, the logo reminds me of early Pink Floyd. For me, that's always a plus.
Viaje a Ixtlan totally blew me away. Love the drums - at times they've got that beautiful jazzy feel to them. Give your drummer more jazz to listen to and he'll surprise you, just don't allow him to use just basic drumming patterns. Some of the passages are quite inventive. Jazz ftw!
The song flows beautifully and it'd be great if I understood a word of the language, but that's my fault, not yours.
The vocals are too loud (when compared to the other instruments) and lack practice - I was under the impression that the singer knew her stuff, but wasn't used to this kind of thing. She needs to immerse herself more in the songs. Then again, that's something that comes with time. She's definitely on the right track, though.
The guitars could've been a bit louder, but that's the guitarist in my complaining.
The thing that would've made the songs much better for me is different lyrics. Not sure if I'm talking about the same lyrics in English (so I could sing along) or about a different set altogether, with more down-to-earth themes and images... I've just got that nagging something something feeling in the back of my head. Ignore it. It's not a musical flaw, it's just a random thought you shouldn't pay attention to. The most important thing is that, even though the lyrics aren't my cup of tea, I still like them and they don't detract from the music at all. That's a win if I ever so one.
After listening to the songs a few times, I wholeheartedly support the current logo :)
You guys play a blend of 70es prog mixed with metal and the logo highlights the prog elements. As I love prog,
Wow, that is what i called a "critic". I totally agree with everything. Yes, the singer is new in this business of singing but we picked her because she has a big pressence and potential, but is kind of locked deep in her (we are working on her to unlock).
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Now we have a Remaster version of AXIS MUNDI, and I think sounds better. Now you can hear some choirs of me and the drummer :p. You can download it from here:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64593360546ffa
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Finally we finished the Demo and now is uploaded in the Myspace.
Please check the web and listen the songs and feel free to make critics!:
www.myspace.com/iixtlan
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Hej lava!
I promise I will listen to it as soon as I am out of pinkfloyd-like mood! Cause I am very curious about whole stuff! I liked some things You have already posted so...
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Hej lava!
I promise I will listen to it as soon as I am out of pinkfloyd-like mood! Cause I am very curious about whole stuff! I liked some things You have already posted so...
Okey , I'll be waiting for your comment. :wink2:
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Hej!
So I've gotta finally founda some time to listen to the music on myspace (including Ixtlan add)
I have to say that I liked a lot the beginning of song "La hora del Nagual" then "Axis Mundi" (this is the track I liked before!) and adore the "Opus Nigrum intro" (omg the drums! and the sounds in backround :wOOt:)... cause this kind of music puts me in a bit another state of mind (:
The girl has very nice voice but sometimes I find her in singing a bit standoffish from the rest of the music... I mean - I would expect a bit more enthusiasm... stronger experience to the singing.
And of course, I like the band name and such... Juan Matus etc... great theme for band.
I have read something around this stuff and - to be honest some thnings helped me a lot ;)
For me is big disadvantage that I do not understand the lyrics. If I could "understand" the music - it would be much better - cause now I just listen to nice music but I cannot get the the message (:
Btw. when the band's first CD is out I want it with all autographs! :tongue:
Kris
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Btw. when the band's first CD is out I want it with all autographs! :tongue:
Good request... I want one too! :lol:
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Hej!
So I've gotta finally founda some time to listen to the music on myspace (including Ixtlan add)
I have to say that I liked a lot the beginning of song "La hora del Nagual" then "Axis Mundi" (this is the track I liked before!) and adore the "Opus Nigrum intro" (omg the drums! and the sounds in backround :wOOt:)... cause this kind of music puts me in a bit another state of mind (:
The girl has very nice voice but sometimes I find her in singing a bit standoffish from the rest of the music... I mean - I would expect a bit more enthusiasm... stronger experience to the singing.
And of course, I like the band name and such... Juan Matus etc... great theme for band.
I have read something around this stuff and - to be honest some thnings helped me a lot ;)
For me is big disadvantage that I do not understand the lyrics. If I could "understand" the music - it would be much better - cause now I just listen to nice music but I cannot get the the message (:
Btw. when the band's first CD is out I want it with all autographs! :tongue:
Kris
Wow, nice critic. Yes, the singer is kind of new in this stuff so that's why she's not yet envolved with our music at all, but we know that in a few months she will fit as well as we do. Now I've translate all lyrics to English so you can understand a little bit more. The songs are based on Carlos Castaneda spiritual system but also with the Draconian Current. We use the concept of Nagual and the Dragon as the same thing (they are beyond everything, light an darkness, time and space, good and evil, etc).
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Very nice Lava! Thank You!
I am happy to have such band "near" me ;)
I really love that idea! :innocent:
Yes, I can understand. I think that the girl will be envolved more soon. It is just a question of time. This happens to every singer I guess. (:
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Finally we finished the Demo and now is uploaded in the Myspace.
Please check the web and listen the songs and feel free to make critics!:
www.myspace.com/iixtlan
Hey! Loads of potential there... I really enjoyed these compositions! :)
La hora del Nagual: Hints of classic nothingface-era voivod in the guitars, mixed with the more eclectic latin elements of the Organization. ...hmmm, but this is just hints of what it reminds me of - your stuff is very original in its own right. I like the singer, she could be really good - as you say, she maybe is currently not as opened up as she could be, but her voice has a good tone - I like it! :) I like the chorus of voices too. They work well. I like the overall feel of this song very much.
Viaje a Ixtlan: Good use of the chorus of voices again in this song - I don't like it as much as La hora.... but it's still good stuff. Could the singer do with some additional FX maybe? just a little delay or some compression to smooth out the mix. I dunno.
Axis Mundi: This is a really great tune!! :thumbup: ...lots of interesting twists and turns - the intro riff is really classic-thrash-cool, the song never loses interest, I like the strong section around 2 minutes in (at first I wasn't sure of the mix here, but it's grown on me) - love the change of pace for the second part of the song, great mood here.
Opus Nigrum intro: Well, it's an intro - fine, no probs.
Sure, maybe some production values could be improved - but that is not so important, that can easily be achieved.... Overall, the most exciting thing about you guys is that you genuinely have something there that is original within your compositions - the band has a distinctive identity, and it makes for a enjoyable listening experience.... and as for the singer... I like her voice a lot - I think she will prove to be a great asset.
You have 2 songs that are great, one average (and an intro). Most demos I hear are shite, so you're well ahead of the game! :biggrin: I hope you are sending this demo far and wide to try and get a deal - because some forward-thinking label ought to snap you up. Seriously, thanks for the link, I enjoyed it, best of luck with your music I believe it deserves to be heard by a wider audience. :thumbup:
EDIT: And to disagree with Nighthawk - I like the lyrics! I don't know what they mean, but that doesn't matter - they sound right. I don't think I'd like it as much if you sang in English (and that from an Englishman :lol3:)
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Finally we finished the Demo and now is uploaded in the Myspace.
Please check the web and listen the songs and feel free to make critics!:
www.myspace.com/iixtlan
Hey! Loads of potential there... I really enjoyed these compositions! :)
La hora del Nagual: Hints of classic nothingface-era voivod in the guitars, mixed with the more eclectic latin elements of the Organization. ...hmmm, but this is just hints of what it reminds me of - your stuff is very original in its own right. I like the singer, she could be really good - as you say, she maybe is currently not as opened up as she could be, but her voice has a good tone - I like it! :) I like the chorus of voices too. They work well. I like the overall feel of this song very much.
Viaje a Ixtlan: Good use of the chorus of voices again in this song - I don't like it as much as La hora.... but it's still good stuff. Could the singer do with some additional FX maybe? just a little delay or some compression to smooth out the mix. I dunno.
Axis Mundi: This is a really great tune!! :thumbup: ...lots of interesting twists and turns - the intro riff is really classic-thrash-cool, the song never loses interest, I like the strong section around 2 minutes in (at first I wasn't sure of the mix here, but it's grown on me) - love the change of pace for the second part of the song, great mood here.
Opus Nigrum intro: Well, it's an intro - fine, no probs.
Sure, maybe some production values could be improved - but that is not so important, that can easily be achieved.... Overall, the most exciting thing about you guys is that you genuinely have something there that is original within your compositions - the band has a distinctive identity, and it makes for a enjoyable listening experience.... and as for the singer... I like her voice a lot - I think she will prove to be a great asset.
You have 2 songs that are great, one average (and an intro). Most demos I hear are shite, so you're well ahead of the game! :biggrin: I hope you are sending this demo far and wide to try and get a deal - because some forward-thinking label ought to snap you up. Seriously, thanks for the link, I enjoyed it, best of luck with your music I believe it deserves to be heard by a wider audience. :thumbup:
EDIT: And to disagree with Nighthawk - I like the lyrics! I don't know what they mean, but that doesn't matter - they sound right. I don't think I'd like it as much if you sang in English (and that from an Englishman :lol3:)
Excellent review! A detail observation of the music with interesting points of analisis. We also think that singing in English will lose potential, but also we think may be to record one song in English for expand the audience. We are very interest in promoving are music everywhere, we are working for something big. We don't have a contract or a deal but we'll have it (we hope). This music is the result and the expression of my being so I found myself very grateful with interesting points of view of it.
Exactly, "Viaje a Ixtlan" is average because it was the first song we made.
Soon I'll post what does the music means so you can understand more or less why the lyrics are that way.
S.A.N.
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Opus Nigrum: This was my first experience using synth, so is kind of an experiment. The song represent the ancient musical methods for trance and meditation. The guitar represents the will of the shaman, magician, etc. The whispers of "Nagual" is a kind of Galdr.
Viaje a Ixtlan: The first part with acousitc guitars represent the beggining of the journey. Is the falling in to the unknown. The introduce of the synth is the explotion of nothingness from the void which starts the magic experience with the distortion. The next high and low changes represent the constant movement of the energy experience in the journey. The flute represents the power of the wind (the wind is the representation of the Nagual in ancient Mexico) that envolves the magician. The guitar solo with the dragon/nagual invocaiton choir is the self-secrifice, the giving. At the end, new source of inspiration arise and everything turns chill. This part is when the magician assumes and recognize the journey will never end, is a constant fight in the quest of knowledge.
Axis Mundi : Heavy beggining for a heavy descending. This is the journey through the high and low spheres. I assume you can feel the experience.
La hora del Nagual: Is the time for lurking. The guitars represent the lucid state of being in the other reality. Then the rock part starts with the keyboard. This is the expression of the comic side of the Nagual (desatinoi controlado = control blunder?). The 2nd part, starts with the heavy bass and the rythm drum. This is the time of action. The low part with the choirs is the climax of the hour of Nagual. The illuminate state of the seer. This song is the anthithesis of thinking. Is the wild side of the existence.
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Thank You for great comment Lava (:
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Here is a link of a video playing alive. Bad quality but you can see more or less how we play alive.
The song isn't recorded and it's called "Caos"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzz8n-geePg
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Here is a link to a video i've made of La hora del Nagual song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXNSsdXtsus
And this is another link of a video i've made making wood necklace (with eloy and therion songs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEFlhU6BQGc
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Hello dear folks!
We have uploaded an English version of the song Axis Mundi. This version included featured another instruments, like the Flute and the Derbake drum. Also we uploaded a new recorded song called Cáos (more progressive stuff).
I hope you´ll enjoy it
Úmpa Lavaniegos
(this are 2 pictures from the winter solstice)
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/lavaniegos/DSC_0043copy.jpg)
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i182/lavaniegos/DSC_0114copy.jpg)
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Hey Lava - thanks for the update, I checked it out - I gotta say I really enjoyed Cáos, what a great track! Once again, original, consistently interesting, entertaining... :thumbup:
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Thank you for listening the songs!. Cáos is mi favourite Ixtlán song and it was the first song we made as a team. Everybody contributed to making the song.
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The songs where removed from the myspace, but here are the links for dowloading.
Renacer del Sol Negro ( The rebirth of the black sun) - This a tribute to heavy metal sound.
http://rapidshare.com/files/179122337/01_Renacer_del_sol_negro.wma.html
Cáos - The best song of Ixtlán for me.
http://rapidshare.com/files/179095278/02_C_os.wma.html
Axis Mundi (English Version) - Featuring Derbake and flute solo!
http://rapidshare.com/files/179100411/03_Axis_Mundi__english_version_.wma.html
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Thanks for the downloads Lava!
Those are great songs... And I hear some hinting to Therion. :biggrin:
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Thank you for sharing! :)
Nice music! :thumbup:
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Hello people!
Here are three links of Carnival videos gig.
1.- Rock you like a hurricane (scorpions cover)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7xulPTsjyM
2.- Viaje a Ixtlán (with Derbake drum)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_1SOQ4o-_w
3.- Axis Mundi (with Derbake drum)
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=53490247
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Cheers for the links Lava
- watched & rated :thumbup:
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I DO LOVE Axis Mundi!!! Your band sound really great!! :wub: :wub:
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I DO LOVE Axis Mundi!!! Your band sound really great!! :wub: :wub:
Thank you so much :)
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Finally today we´re going to finish the mix of 3 songs that we recorded in the last 2 months. I´m too happy with the result, the new singer and the new bass player did an excellent job that I think we sound the twice better than before. In this songs we have put a lot of experimental things, like subliminal voices, psychedellic synths effects and even laughters! The names of the songs are:
1.-Ain Set ( this song is in Spanish and has a lot of varations. You can hear pure heavy rock, a little bit of funk latin sound, a little bit of gothic style in the end, and in the middle there is an imitation of traditional tango but with rock).
2.- La muerte, una fiel consejera (This song is in English and is the best song we have recorded. It has its roots in rock and roll feeling)
3.- Shakras ( This song is in half Spanish half Sanskrit, and it is very heavy, very metal. In the end you can hear a very psychedellic progressive stuff)
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Hey Lava,
that sounds very interesting, and it's great to see you so enthusiastic about your work. Also it's great to hear that Ixtlan is still active after all those changes you've been going through.
Where will we be able to get our hands on these songs?
Cheers!
Markus
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We´ve uploaded a new song now! (Ain Set)
www.myspace.com/iixtlan (http://www.myspace.com/iixtlan)
@Markus: Finally we´re a going to pull out our first album with 10 or eleven songs, but this will take some months because we´re going to record again the voice and make a new mix.
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It's great, Lava. :) Please count me in when sending signed albums all over the world! :wOOt:
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New bass player is really good. :thumbup:
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I´ll do everything to give the album personally, because there is a secret plan concerning europe :ninja:
Yes Jorge, he is very good, and that is because he is more open minded (musically and personalitie talking) than the old.
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there is a secret plan concerning europe :ninja:
:wOOt: :thumbup: Can't wait!
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Good one, Lava! :thumbup:
Is that an all new song or a re-recording?
I guess the title alludes to Ain Soph as well?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the album and your secret plan. :wOOt: Would be such a pleasure to meet you in person.
Cheers!
Markus
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Good one, Lava! :thumbup:
Is that an all new song or a re-recording?
I guess the title alludes to Ain Soph as well?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the album and your secret plan. :wOOt: Would be such a pleasure to meet you in person.
Cheers!
Markus
Well, Ain Set is indeed the first song we´ve made about 5 or 6 years old (though Ixtlán only has 3 years and a half :ninja:). This song was made when we (the other guitar player and the drummer) just to have a power metal band, and the base of the song was played in keyboard. This song has been called by 4 or 5 different names, and the rythms has been changed so many times that the only original thing still there is the first melodic riff of the guitar. This is the first time we record it.
The title indeed alludes the Ain Soph and the feeling of the Set Tunnels and the Desert.
Fortunatly our new singer is also a Graphic Designer so she is helping to do faster the desing things. I would personally like to meet you and all you people from this forum, you are special persons may be from another planet like me :cht:
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I would personally like to meet you and all you people from this forum, you are special persons may be from another planet like me :cht:
:wub:
Another planet? But of course! -_- :alien:
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Here is the song with subtitles in English:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl91TsYIuCc
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I invite everybody to hear this Arabic Ensamble music called Ruh Saahil. This ensamble is conformed by the other guitar player of Ixtlán, Edwin Montes, and also the bass player, Alfredo Berumen. The two founders of this ensamble, the Derbake player and the Flute player, also play some times in Ixtlán and recorded some parts of the songs (like Axis Mundi). This ensamble only play traditional songs but with arrangements.
http://www.myspace.com/ruhsaahil (http://www.myspace.com/ruhsaahil)
Here is a live video with a belly dancer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f21Kb5ZSfQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f21Kb5ZSfQ)
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Whoa, thank you a lot for sharing, they are great! :bow:
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Finally we have uploaded the 3 new songs !
www.myspace.com/iixtlan
And you cand download the songs here
http://soundcloud.com/ixtlan